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GTA 5 online hackers

I was playing GTA 5 online when some guy in my server gave me over 200 million. Now most servers i get into, i receive large amounts of money. now i have over 5 billion and i don not want to get in trouble for it. Another thing, i was level 48 and somehow I'm level 129. Ive recently tried to play GTA 5 Online but it keeps loading forever and never loads. I tried on my friends xbox to see if it worked but nothing changed. I don't know what is going on and why i cant connect. I fell like I've been banned and I haven't done anything wrong. Please respond.

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Your level doesn't just magically change. It cannot happen unless done purposely. Do you regret doing it?

ToothlessConch
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Just to add some support... Everyone's being really judgemental goody-goodies on this site but I got a load of cash given to me by some random person. And I was very grateful for it. I don't know what a DNS is or if it's different for RP, compared to "money", but I do know that people here accused me of cheating. I haven't entered any cheat, it just seemed to me some people hacked into the GTA servers and screwed with it royally and gave me money. I'm sure they can alter RP too, if they want. So yes, Rockstar may have banned you, I've no idea, but that doesn't mean people should automatically blame you. And even if you had cheated, so what? Games have always had cheats, it's only because Rockstar are trying to get people to buy their pretend currency that it's an issue.

I say, complain, if it doesn't sort itself out. Rockstar have had server problems from day one with this game so it might just be that, but if not, you paid money for this game, state your case and complain.

Personally, I'd love someone to sue Rockstar. The online aspect of the game is a part of the game and it wasn't even finished by the time people bought the game. People should have been able to claim refunds really, as that's not "goods as advertised". To F it all up and then ban PLAYERS for your own programming mistakes is rich. But, that said, I've not heard anything from Rockstar directly, maybe they won't really ban anyone.

They should reply to you, here, though.

ThmasRakewell
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@ThmasRakewell Just to add some support... Everyone's being really judgemental goody-goodies on this site but I got a load of cash given to me by some random person. And I was very grateful for it. I don't know what a DNS is or if it's different for RP, compared to "money", but I do know that people here accused me of cheating. I haven't entered any cheat, it just seemed to me some people hacked into the GTA servers and screwed with it royally and gave me money. I'm sure they can alter RP too, if they want. So yes, Rockstar may have banned you, I've no idea, but that doesn't mean people should automatically blame you. And even if you had cheated, so what? Games have always had cheats, it's only because Rockstar are trying to get people to buy their pretend currency that it's an issue.

You paid for single player. Online is free and came with terms and conditions.

BUB_LOBLAW
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@BUB_LOBLAW You paid for single player. Online is free and came with terms and conditions.

So you can have the online game without ever having bought the single player? And there are people out there playing Online without ever having bought the CD or downloaded the single player game?

I don't think so.

ThmasRakewell
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@ThmasRakewell So you can have the online game without ever having bought the single player? And there are people out there playing Online without ever having bought the CD or downloaded the single player game?

GTA Online was marketed as a free game add-on to the $60 single player game (or more than $60 depending on what version you bought). That is just the facts of the matter. If someone wants to sue R* then stop talking about it and actually do it, but, [spoiler alert] you would be wasting your own time and money. Keep in mind that EVERYONE agreed to the online ToS and EULA upon entering online mode for the first time, so legally, R* isn't doing any wrong.

eaustinn36
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@BUB_LOBLAW You paid for single player. Online is free and came with terms and conditions.

The online game was also an advertised part of the main game. There's no way it would stand up, claiming its a separate game.

ThmasRakewell
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@BUB_LOBLAW How thick is the bone in your skull?

No. How thick are you? You cannot play GTA Online without buying GTAV. that's the point I'm making, and that point alone means it's not a separate game. Don't start getting abusive, especially when I'm right. I'm reporting you to Rockstar.

ThmasRakewell
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@ThmasRakewell No. How thick are you? You cannot play GTA Online without buying GTAV. that's the point I'm making, and that point alone means it's not a separate game. Don't start getting abusive, especially when I'm right. I'm reporting you to Rockstar.

Report away. Inquiring about the your bone depth sounds horrendous.

If you need me to word it this way I will: We pay for the single player game and with that comes GTA online for free.

BUB_LOBLAW
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@eaustinn36 GTA Online was marketed as a free game add-on to the $60 single player game (or more than $60 depending on what version you bought). That is just the facts of the matter. If someone wants to sue R* then stop talking about it and actually do it, but, [spoiler alert] you would be wasting your own time and money. Keep in mind that EVERYONE agreed to the online ToS and EULA upon entering online mode for the first time, so legally, R* isn't doing any wrong.

I didn't see any such distinction when buying it. At all. In fact, on the box I have it mentions the online gameplay, so it's even on the packaging! I'm not saying people would be successful at suing, necessarily (although, if they go ahead with this banning, I'd love someone to sue, I'd consider contributing financially, for sure, just to make a point) but there's at least a case. Especially if R* ban people that didn't break any rules intentionally, but were gifted money. It's just not a case that it would be worth an individual taking up, alone. But if they do ban people en masse (and this hasn't happened yet) there's potentially a case.

Although the easiest option there would be for Rockstar to refund anyone that asked for it.

ThmasRakewell
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@ThmasRakewell I didn't see any such distinction when buying it. At all. In fact, on the box I have it mentions the online gameplay, so it's even on the packaging! I'm not saying people would be successful at suing, necessarily (although, if they go ahead with this banning, I'd love someone to sue, I'd consider contributing financially, for sure, just to make a point) but there's at least a case. Especially if R* ban people that didn't break any rules intentionally, but were gifted money. It's just not a case that it would be worth an individual taking up, alone. But if they do ban people en masse (and this hasn't happened yet) there's potentially a case.

They have stated it publicly before launch when asked if you could purchase online only. It's also prevalent in the sign up process when you take your game online.

BUB_LOBLAW
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It's not free, obviously, if you have to pay to have the main (paid for) game installed first. It is then a part of the game that you paid for. To descend to your level, you're clearly an idiot if you can't see this. There is no one that can play GTA Online without have the main game installed.

And besides, it mentions GTAO on the packaging to my game. The one I paid £40, or thereabouts, for. It's therefore advertised as part of the game. Blatantly.

You're just a little chicken, trying to suck Rockstar off, for some reason.

ThmasRakewell
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@ThmasRakewell . Especially if R* ban people that didn't break any rules intentionally, but were gifted money. It's just not a case that it would be worth an individual taking up, alone. But if they do ban people en masse (and this hasn't happened yet) there's potentially a case.

Rockstar has stated clearly that they will only ban hackers and modders. I think the worst that will happen to someone who was gifted a lot of money is maybe they spend time in the cheaters pool if they spent significant money...and even that may not happen.

BUB_LOBLAW
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@BUB_LOBLAW Rockstar has stated clearly that they will only ban hackers and modders. I think the worst that will happen to someone who was gifted a lot of money is maybe they spend time in the cheaters pool if they spent significant money...and even that may not happen.

Yeah, you know, that does sound more likely, that's about right.

I'm still on the hackers side. It was a boring game before. I've spent loads of the pretend GTA currency since it arrived in my account and it's been much more fun.

ThmasRakewell
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@ThmasRakewell It's not free, obviously, if you have to pay to have the main (paid for) game installed first. It is then a part of the game that you paid for. To descend to your level, you're clearly an idiot if you can't see this. There is no one that can play GTA Online without have the main game installed.

Just to clarify you're wrong and bob is right. Rockstar established gta online as a seperates product repeatedly in interviews, which would serve as the public record in any legal case. You paid for gta v, with that came free access to gta online, rockstar hasn't said that they will or won't sell gta online separately in the future though I think that will be the case.

In the future I encourage you to research the topic you are discussing further, as each point you've attempted to make is factually inaccurate.

Wallywhitehurst
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@ThmasRakewell Yeah, you know, that does sound more likely, that's about right.

That PRETEND currency you refer to is linked directly to REAL CASH via the Shark Cards they sell on the game stores. This seems to be a major point lost on the majority of the hacker community. You are not just gaming Monopoly Money here anymore. The GTA$ VC has actual real world value, and with that, opens up the hacking of said money to federal cybercrime laws. Understand? This is why people are getting their consoles banned over this, and the worst offenders will likely see the inside of a courtroom before it is all said and done.

Goose7
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@Goose7 That PRETEND currency you refer to is linked directly to REAL CASH via the Shark Cards they sell on the game stores. This seems to be a major point lost on the majority of the hacker community. You are not just gaming Monopoly Money here anymore. The GTA$ VC has actual real world value, and with that, opens up the hacking of said money to federal cybercrime laws. Understand? This is why people are getting their consoles banned over this, and the worst offenders will likely see the inside of a courtroom before it is all said and done.

I doubt Rockstar will sue anyone. Most of the people that have done this are minors (at least that's what it seems like). Come to think of it, since those minors aren't legally allowed to play GTA, I think their agreement to the terms and conditions would be nullified.

ToothlessConch
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Actually, I don't know if it's law or anything, I just know that they don't sell it to minors. I have no clue if it is illegal or if they are even strict. Just throwing it out there.

ToothlessConch
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@Goose7 That PRETEND currency you refer to is linked directly to REAL CASH via the Shark Cards they sell on the game stores. This seems to be a major point lost on the majority of the hacker community. You are not just gaming Monopoly Money here anymore. The GTA$ VC has actual real world value, and with that, opens up the hacking of said money to federal cybercrime laws. Understand? This is why people are getting their consoles banned over this, and the worst offenders will likely see the inside of a courtroom before it is all said and done.

We're speculating here but, since it's an interesting one, why not, eh? If it ever did get as far as a courtroom, Rockstar wouldn't want to argue it's a currency in the first place because that opens up a whole can of trouble. Look at Bitcoin.
Secondly, does it have the characteristics of a currency? Ie. can it be traded in the free market? Can you trade your GTA money back into Pounds or Dollars or Euros or whatever? Is there a market set exchange rate? On every count, the answer is no.
So what you're looking at is in-game credit. But that's complicated further by the fact you get in-game credit anyway, for completing milestones in the game or whatever. So all anyone could argue is that a game has been hacked to allow players to 'progress'. Now here, I'm not expert in this area, but I'm not aware of hackers being punished (in the court or any other system) for this kind of thing. I think it's hard to even identify them.
So really I think all Rockstar can do is patch their game, respond to any new hacks, and appeal to the game's online community. Which is what they're doing.
It is interesting though.

ThmasRakewell