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Whats with all these bans, could you explain to me rockstar?

I've been hearing alot about people being banned because of a glitch that gives them alot of money, what i don't understand is why you would ban them, just take their money away, they paid for the game they have the right to play it, also you should thank them, they have found the bugs for you so you can now patch them. I do think it is a bit hypocritical to create a game where the sole objective is to steal and cheat money from society but when people do it online they get banned, the game is about being reckless and doing what you want. I understand your concerns about it being easy but just remove their cash and nothing else, I don't see why they should pay 40-50 for this game and then get banned without a warning, that's what call of duty do and they are falling apart, at least give your customers a warning before banning them, like i said if they hadn't have done this in the first place the bug would still be out there. Why make a game about crime and money and then ban people when they find an illegal way to make money on the game, just remove their cash and give them a warning then ban them, its a little harsh banning them straight away after paying quite alot for the game. I have to say rock* is my favorite games company because your ideas are original. all the way from the Italian job up to GTA V you have always been a great company, why ruin your relationship with many customers over something like this. Keep quality in your games and stay a bit laid back with your customers. GTA online would always have had bugs and as a games developer you know that people will always look for bugs. Don't lose respect by throwing a tantrum like other game companies though, you speak to generations, keep your trust and faith with your customers and don't do anything to drastic. Please reply rockstar if you get chance

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I don't understand the theory here. You said it's a game about stealing money. Using the exploit isn't something you do as a character in the game. It is achieved by repeatedly quitting the game at the right time, then reloading into the world. It is an exploit done by you outside what the game is intended to do. So your theory only shows that your line between games and reality is a bit blurry.

Rabid-Cat
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Limp think about your flawed logic here... If u buy a car and get a speeding ticket, is it the manufacturers fault? Can u sue them because you were speeding bit they made the car? Really, the theory is flawed.

And I wasn't saying you were glitching or banned, was just speaking in general.

Rabid-Cat
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finding a bug and reporting it, and finding a bug, showing people how to do it, and then those people using it to get tens of millions of dollars are 2 completely different things.

bigbadron
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Under the code of conduct (7) you will not cheat or utilize any unauthorized robot, spider, or other program in connection with the Online Services. They are well within their right to ban people. will they ? I doubt it. I think they should just remove the money (if it still exists). Downvote away ;p

sidz0rz
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Hey Limp, you can't sue them for getting banned as a glitcher. You got what you paid for. Then went against the user agreement to perform the glitch. Therefore you got everything you were entitled to as a purchaser, and your conduct was what got you ejected.

Rabid-Cat
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limpskillet afaik Rockstar (North at least) is a UK company not US. Their legal team is 2nd to none, look how fast the closed down most streams pre release and how they clamp down on NDA's. They are not scared of users threatening legal action.

The glitch isn't a hot coffee. Hot coffee was a element they were trying to push past the censors that they couldn't pass at the time. The glitch is just that a glitch not a design choice.

People need to learn to read the small print (South Park Human Centipede). Yeah the game is about Murder, racketeering, extortion and so on but thats the game, they are a business. It's their game, they can do whatever they want and you agree to their terms by playing it.

Just play and enjoy or find something else.

sidz0rz
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limpskillet this is the last answer (comment) I will make on this but your re quoting the code of conduct is missing a tiny part.

"The theroy is this did u make the glitch? No. Did you make a robot? No. Did you in any way change any code in said game to cause it to do this? No you Dident"

You are not quoting is the first 4 words. (7) you will not cheat

sidz0rz
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If you go to youtube and type in GTA online car glitch, you will see so many videos on that's glitch. If rockstar decides to ban all the offenders then everyone and their mother is going to be banned and that would be a lot more work than just taking their money or just leaving I alone and not do anything.

RyanToTheMax54
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in their code of conduct it says you are not allowed to cheat

but that would be somthing like hacks, this was just abuse of a flaw in their badly flawed game, i heared there was some hackers on the PS3 that made billions, they will prolly face bans, but people at los santos customs and repeating missions and doing the glitched exp races? i think not, this game clearly has many flaws and i would like to see myself get banned or face any punishment for anything i have done, i lost my first 2 characters and 500k dont even come fucking close to what i earned before i discovered the car glitch i made 1.7 mil LEGIT obv now i have alot fucking more lawl and if i get banned or punished i really couldant give a shit, it would just be the final thing to make me leave this game, the glitch is the only reason i kept playing, if i had to grind all that shit up legit without being able to replay missions i would be tearing my eyes out NOTHIN BUT LOADING SCREENS SON

Jamesfett
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My problem is I have a real life. One with a girlfriend who needs me when she asks, otherwise its time for us to fight and have an argument. Or perhaps my cats are getting into trouble and I dont want to just sit there and die and lose everything.

Bottom line, keep the bad sport thing in, I encourage it. But with limitations. You should be able to quit if you need to. I just had to shut off the power without warning because my girlfriend was having a B**** fit about me leaving our cat's food dish out after they finished eating... No satisfaction here at home, its either "a damn video game or family and real life that's important" as the woman says...

Airehk
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Erm, Rockstar made the glitch possible in the first place, and when people started doing it Rockstar didn't say there were any consequences until the day before the patch... So how are players at fault here? It's not illegal and is not a bot or mod in the game, it's a glitch that Rockstar created themselves, they mentioned no ban or cheat pool until after the act was done. It would be like giving a child a cookie and then after he/she eats the cookie, punishing them for eating it.

MbZ-Timeless
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To the last comment your right but yet way way way off. That pertains to people making the said things and using them in the game. Rockstar made the game and the glitch. Ya they Dident mean to but they Dident mean to make hot coffee. Yes that took some doing to find and in doing so probably fell under that section 7 thing. But this Isent the case everyone one they ban can Sue them for banning them since R* made the glitch. Just because you exploited it doesn't me your doing anything illegal in any way. They made the glitch a part of the game again I say not on purpose but they made it never the less and they know it. They wont admit to it and say our bad were taking your money away. I agree with taking it away but not banning that's uncalled for when they are saying they broke contract when they only found a part of the game they Dident know existed. Say what u want because this is America and we have freedom of speech but this is the truth R* knows it and they know no one is gonna stand up agenst them.

limpskillet
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The theroy is this did u make the glitch? No. Did you make a robot? No. Did you in any way change any code in said game to cause it to do this? No you Dident. One more time. ROCKSTAR MADE THE GLITCH BY ACCIDENT NOT ANY PLAYER ROCKSTAR THEY MADE IT POSSIBLE TO DO THIS NOT THE PLAYERS SO WHERE IS IT OUT FAULT FOR SOMETHING ROCKSTAR MADE POSSIBLE IN THE FIRSTPLACE? its not our fault its there's ya they probably shouldn't have done it but too late now huh. Theory's simple now rockstar messed up playeres took the mess up as a gift horse and now they want to ban the ones who used what they made possible in the first place.

limpskillet
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Lol I Wasent banned. But thanks for being so concerned. And no its really simple the glitch was made possible by them not the players. That's just like saying your driving down the road or robing a store. They made it possible to do that. Its a good game riddled with problems which we all hope are fixed soon but going through all that code to find the broken pieces and fix them. But I ask you where does it say in any contract if you do a glitch which we cause your at fault and will be banned. The foment with section seven bellow stated use of any outside operations program of any type is illegal to use and is breach. So ill make this real simple ITS IN THE GAME ALREADY. For the ones who did it ya they should have had more moral fiber but just like with all the other glitches that are big and cause problems. The lose ur money and car glitch happen when you leave and come back weither its a few seconds later or the next day hows that any different? Are we gonna be banned for that no. Should anyone be banned for doing something that is in the code of the disk and servers before anyone even plays it no. Its that simple.

limpskillet