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Upcoming Change to Job Vote Screen

This is an official Rockstar announcement concerning a change to the next job vote screen. Due to high demand from the community, we are adding jobs from contacts to the voting screen. This change will be coming soon, but there is not an exact ETA at this time.

Essentially, this means that jobs from Gerald, Simeon, etc will all be available on the voting screen along with races, parachute jumps, and other missions. This feature is being added directly based on feedback from you, our community, so please keep posting your ideas and thoughts on the game. If you have any questions or comments, please leave them below.

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As I mentioned earlier (before this post was deleted by R*, because of spam they say, and then posted again):

Though it always nice to see that R* sometimes listen to the community, I would think there would be a higher demand from the community to do something about 'bad sport'.

In the previous post of this sticky note R* commented that they were certainly also looking into the 'bad sports' comments and that we could expect any news about it soon.

The suggestion I made was to simplify it to a form like in Red Dead Redemption:

  1. Free roam, where anything goes and if a certain amount of players decide to kick you out, have the kicked player moved to a new session instead of banning him for a few days.

  2. Friendly or passive roam, for players who hate being killed and just want to do the matches, shopping, driving etc.

  3. Hardcore roam: no auto aim.

This not being allowed to repeatedly destroy other players' cars, killing them over and over again, quitting jobs etc. doesn't seem GTA to me. The whole nature of the game is to just go on a rampage and do whatever you like and is or isn't allowed. If I want to play nice and just play games with my co-session players I'd play a game like Mario Party.

jiggywiggy1965
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"Essentially, this means that jobs from Gerald, Simeon, etc will all be available on the voting screen along with races, parachute jumps, and other missions."

Unless this includes missions from the likes of Lester and Martin as well, you may as well not bother. The jobs for Simeon take ages and pay next to nothing. Gerald's jobs pay poorly too, especially after Violent Duct's payout was cut to a third of what it was originally. The jobs for Martin and Lester which unlock post rank ~60 are not only the better paying jobs in the game, they are also far more enjoyable to play – take Trash Talk for example, which not only pays out $23,000 but also has three distinct tasks to accomplish, in a welcome change from the 'go here, kill these guys, drive back' pattern found in every Gerald job.

Until the hospital bills are removed, there is certainly no point doing most of the story jobs by yourself though. Not only do online characters appear to have less health than the protagonists in story mode (and Super Heavy Armor is about as effective as tissue paper, even taking damage from bike accidents), but the AI in online is unbelievably powerful – they can hit you with a pistol at sniper range, and their accuracy from moving cars is truly frightening. I now mentally subtract $495 from the payout of every mission in my phone's job list, since I can be certain I won't have any armour left by the time I am finished.

I am still enjoying the open world MMO feel of GTA Online. I just wish I didn't feel quite so helpless in the game world. Every good way of making money that existed has been taken out, while the tempting LSC car-selling glitches have been left in. You can't replay Violent Duct, you can't replay story missions, you can't blow up the documents in Rooftop Rumble, you can't stand in good spots in Survival, you can't sell the car in Out of Court Settlement, betting wins are capped, RP for fastest laps is capped... The list goes on and on and on. And forget having fun in freemode – you lose thousands of dollars every time you die, and god help you if you blow up someone else's personal vehicle or you'll end up with a lovely little dunce cap!

Why do you think people are – sorry, were – farming these missions? Why do you think people are glitching? It is not just to spite you and your efforts. It is because we feel helpless – you patch ways of making decent money at a moment's notice but medical bills 'are being investigated'. Missions can't be restarted anymore, but still you felt the need to reduce their payouts, keeping low-ranking players down and stifling their progress. Mission payouts below level 45 barely cover medical bills and the obligatory armour purchase. It is a sad state of affairs when races remain the best way of making money and RP in the game until well after level 50.

I notice Rockstar have never replied to the common criticism that all this has been done to increase the temptation to buy cash cards – maybe that's because that is entirely true. I am sure there will be many like me though, who are determined to never buy a cash card for that very reason.

It's time to admit it – Rockstar got the game balance wrong.

Outlaw999
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Can we get a patch that will allow us to return to the same session we were in after a the vote screen? (IE a friends only session) As of now I have to rejoin my friend's session after every job, it's a bit of a pain.

martindm03
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*Casino
*Crew clubs houses AKA ( Hangouts)
*Better and longer hair
*Longer beards (Full) (Long Goatee)
*Apartments in the desert ( Trailer house like Trevor's)
*Leather vest, Blue jean jacket's, and vest, Leather gloves or mechanic gloves
*More/ better hats, with the option to wear backwards in wardrobe
*More cruiser motorcycles (Very lacking)
*Keep all players together after a job in a Crew, invite only, or Crew's session
*Pool Tables
*Strippers in private house calls, and or lap dance actually show boobs
*Ear,and body Piercings
*More jewelry options
*better tattoo options ( maybe a full shirt tattoo )
*Fix crew emblems showing upside down, side ways, etch on vehicles, and motor bikes
*Business buying option's, Everyone gotta have their hustle on the side, with quest for the business you own
*Body building
*Surfing

chillinbill
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I guess this is a fair compromise to the replay button which I will assume you removed for a good reason, exploitative or some such, but is this really a priority fix right now when content such as bawsaq is not functioning making the game incomplete or is it simply a faster thing to deal with and that is why it's been dealt with first?

GinRummy_
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With contact missions being added to voting a job type distinction between coop missions, LTS and versus/competitive missions would be nice. Only LTS as part of the name leads to accidental votes for LTS maps, at very least LTS should be considered a type of deathmatch not a mission.

adra12
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Welcome to the change Rockstar, but please adjust the missions payout or release some high pay heists ASAP, I think these are higher priority than the job vote screen.

As Outlaw999 said, I can see a lot of low level players are struggling for cash, and I have been getting a lot of them joining my $10k~25k missions, which I don't mind and i will set it to easy give them some quick cash. With the current pay from Gerald or Simeon's missions in low level, its take god how many hours of play just to get enough budgets for ammo, weapons, cars, house etc, I was one of them as well.
People play games for satisfaction and sense of achievements, while Rockstar is suppressing this with low payout and that either push people to use their mighty micro-transaction or quit this game. That's the balance breaker.
We requests the employers in Los Santos to raise the pay rate, Rockstar.

keisuker
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jiggywiggy1965 "

As I mentioned earlier (before this post was deleted by R*, because of spam they say, and then posted again):

Though it always nice to see that R* sometimes listen to the community, I would think there would be a higher demand from the community to do something about 'bad sport'.

In the previous post of this sticky note R* commented that they were certainly also looking into the 'bad sports' comments and that we could expect any news about it soon.

The suggestion I made was to simplify it to a form like in Red Dead Redemption:

Free roam, where anything goes and if a certain amount of players decide to kick you out, have the kicked player moved to a new session instead of banning him for a few days.

Friendly or passive roam, for players who hate being killed and just want to do the matches, shopping, driving etc.

Hardcore roam: no auto aim.

This not being allowed to repeatedly destroy other players' cars, killing them over and over again, quitting jobs etc. doesn't seem GTA to me. The whole nature of the game is to just go on a rampage and do whatever you like and is or isn't allowed. If I want to play nice and just play games with my co-session players I'd play a game like Mario Party. "

Martindmo3 " Can we get a patch that will allow us to return to the same session we were in after a the vote screen? (IE a friends only session) As of now I have to rejoin my friend's session after every job, it's a bit of a pain. "

Chillinbill " *Casino *Crew clubs houses AKA ( Hangouts) *Better and longer hair *Longer beards (Full) (Long Goatee) *Apartments in the desert ( Trailer house like Trevor's) *Leather vest, Blue jean jacket's, and vest, Leather gloves or mechanic gloves *More/ better hats, with the option to wear backwards in wardrobe *More cruiser motorcycles (Very lacking) *Keep all players together after a job in a Crew, invite only, or Crew's session *Pool Tables *Strippers in private house calls, and or lap dance actually show boobs *Ear,and body Piercings *More jewelry options *better tattoo options ( maybe a full shirt tattoo ) *Fix crew emblems showing upside down, side ways, etch on vehicles, and motor bikes *Business buying option's, Everyone gotta have their hustle on the side, with quest for the business you own *Body building *Surfing "

Geordieborn1985
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Something that should have been included by default, but better late than never I suppose.

The matchmaking interface needs to be developed much further though.
For example, if I want to play a competitive mission(like Top Gun), I have no way of searching for it. The only search function that finds missions is "Quick Mission", but this includes coop games as well. Basically there need to be 2 separate searches, 1 for coop jobs, and the other for pvp missions.

Additionally the auto-aim fiasco needs to be resolved in tdm. Deathmatch with autoaim is basically unplayable, it's really laughably bad. The problem is that if you want to play the game with autoaim - for coop misions - but switch to freeaim for deathmatches, you need to manually change your entire aiming system by cycling back and forth through single player. There needs to be a way to adjust your aiming system on the fly, or ideally, auto-aim should be a host-controlled parameter in deathmatch settings.

These proposals, along with incorporating coop missions into the voting screen, are just the bare minimum of what needs to be included for proper matchmaking.

Ideally some sort of search filter could be added, so players could find specific missions/activities instead of wasting time hopping from lobby to lobby. Also a way to filter games by parameters, such as filtering out races that have "catch up" enabled would be very useful.

naizarak
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I am very excited about this change. Not being able to replay the NPC issued missions seriously takes away from the "replay" value of the game. We should be able to rerun online story missions just like the offline story missions. And we should also be able to add them to our playlists.

Psychodpg
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I really think you guy's should make it so you only need the majority of votes to count before selecting the next "job", there always seems to be that 1 person who doesn't want to vote dragging the timer out

Moses.
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I agree with jiggy, GTA has lost what its all about on free roam with bad sport. I just posted a question/idea on here about a decent solutions to this that seems like it would be the LEAST rockstar could do.

TacticalMonky1
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I would like to paint the cars like in Forza Motorsport. Add an explorable aircraft carrier. Add the DeLorean. Make the flatbed trucks usable like the tow trucks are. Since we having working tractors trailers, maybe some 'Smokey and the Bandit' missions. More bling options for the cars that have little to none currently (like the Challenger/Camaro car, Dodge crew cab). And a 5 minute God mode for when I get griefed for no reason (like last night outside my own garage).

ValamirMagesblud
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jiggywiggy1965 "

As I mentioned earlier (before this post was deleted by R*, because of spam they say, and then posted again):

Though it always nice to see that R* sometimes listen to the community, I would think there would be a higher demand from the community to do something about 'bad sport'.

In the previous post of this sticky note R* commented that they were certainly also looking into the 'bad sports' comments and that we could expect any news about it soon.

The suggestion I made was to simplify it to a form like in Red Dead Redemption:

Free roam, where anything goes and if a certain amount of players decide to kick you out, have the kicked player moved to a new session instead of banning him for a few days.

Friendly or passive roam, for players who hate being killed and just want to do the matches, shopping, driving etc.

Hardcore roam: no auto aim.

This not being allowed to repeatedly destroy other players' cars, killing them over and over again, quitting jobs etc. doesn't seem GTA to me. The whole nature of the game is to just go on a rampage and do whatever you like and is or isn't allowed. If I want to play nice and just play games with my co-session players I'd play a game like Mario Party. "

Martindmo3 " Can we get a patch that will allow us to return to the same session we were in after a the vote screen? (IE a friends only session) As of now I have to rejoin my friend's session after every job, it's a bit of a pain. "

Chillinbill " *Casino *Crew clubs houses AKA ( Hangouts) *Better and longer hair *Longer beards (Full) (Long Goatee) *Apartments in the desert ( Trailer house like Trevor's) *Leather vest, Blue jean jacket's, and vest, Leather gloves or mechanic gloves *More/ better hats, with the option to wear backwards in wardrobe *More cruiser motorcycles (Very lacking) *Keep all players together after a job in a Crew, invite only, or Crew's session *Pool Tables *Strippers in private house calls, and or lap dance actually show boobs *Ear,and body Piercings *More jewelry options *better tattoo options ( maybe a full shirt tattoo ) *Fix crew emblems showing upside down, side ways, etch on vehicles, and motor bikes *Business buying option's, Everyone gotta have their hustle on the side, with quest for the business you own *Body building *Surfing "

Geordieborn1985
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It is to save on server load that is all they realized people were backing out to free mode unnecessarily and then ringing to get a different job right after. this was taxing the servers and could be avoided by this fix. Great.. now get rid of the bad sport thing all together and we good.

Freak-When-See
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R* real greedy. You earned a billion in sales but trying to eliminate every possible way to make money AND making dying also a setback with money so you can get players to buy your cash cards. ?Wut?

C.Kardashian
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So, we're still not getting replay back, we're just going to get phone missions as random voting possibilities? No, Rockstar, you're NOT listening to what the community has been asking for. No one has been asking to vote for phone missions from the jobs page, they've been asking for the damn replay button back!

DoctorEmmetBrown
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I know that heist will probably come out in 1.04 but will there be a limit to how many heists we can do.

Jibby.
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Add a "Return to last session" option. Or allow for some kind of way the session players can "walk in" and "walk out" from an activity in the same spot of the map and remain together as a group. Some kind of link system between the invited players. Like having a host/leader and everyone else can chose to "follow" the host/leader automatically.

AUSPUFF
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How about some NEW missions? I play every day with my crew and friends (only coop missions) and we always get the same missions! Mission LVL stops at 75... after completing the LVL 75 it seems that the receiving starts from the beginning and all of us get missions like LVL 6 and so on and after completing all of them again it starts again with LVL 6... Did we something wrong that we always get the same missions? Its really boring to play the same stuff over and over again... I hope someone can help

JohnnyDamager
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This is directed at the top poster in this thread,

If you turn off auto-aim in single player then you will play without it in Online. It is tied to each other, no auto-aim offline means no auto-aim online.

HawaiianRush
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@Outlaw999 TRUE WORDS M8!!!! I love this game me and my crew play it every day since the online mode released but after some things were patched and other things were not the game makes no fun anymore!
Lets hope with 1.04 they add new missions or maybe heists as a little compensation... but i guess they only patch glitches and add the first 250000 in game $...

JohnnyDamager